I need help

[Mr.pechu]

Hello

I'm in the sound ministry at a church. I just started and I need help with some things.

First: why is the preacher's voice saturated, if that doesn't happen on the church speakers? (I have a limiter, compressor, and I lowered the gain)

Second: I read here that the compressor was good for preaching but bad for songs, is there a way to solve it so that this does not affect it, or will I simply have to remove it when starts singing and put it back when preaches?

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From already thank you very much

Pd: I have an analog console, and from this I transfer it to the computer with a cable.

Pd²: I don't speak English and this is translated with a translator, sorry if it is poorly translated. I am from Argentina

Pd³: I also have problems with the camera, but I'm not too worried because we plan to change it for a better one.

 

[Mr.pechu]

If you have things to learn it would also help me a lot. thank you

 

[JohnPee]

Esto no resolverá su problema de sonido, pero puede brindarle algunas ideas sobre cómo mejorar la calidad del video.

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[Mr.pechu]

Muchas gracias :)

Esto no resolverá su problema de sonido, pero puede brindarle algunas ideas sobre cómo mejorar la calidad del video.

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[Mr.pechu]

Esto no resolverá su problema de sonido, pero puede brindarle algunas ideas sobre cómo mejorar la calidad del video.

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Al final el problema de la cámara era el extensor de usb. Teníamos una Logitech c922 conectada a un alargador de USB, y esté, conectada a la PC.

 

[sir_emmy_uche]

Hello

I'm in the sound ministry at a church. I just started and I need help with some things.

First: why is the preacher's voice saturated, if that doesn't happen on the church speakers? (I have a limiter, compressor, and I lowered the gain)

Second: I read here that the compressor was good for preaching but bad for songs, is there a way to solve it so that this does not affect it, or will I simply have to remove it when starts singing and put it back when preaches?

I attach a video of the transmission:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

From already thank you very much

Pd: I have an analog console, and from this I transfer it to the computer with a cable.

Pd²: I don't speak English and this is translated with a translator, sorry if it is poorly translated. I am from Argentina

Pd³: I also have problems with the camera, but I'm not too worried because we plan to change it for a better one.

I don't know if you've found a solution to it or if it has been answered. But I just want to drop it here for future reference and help to someone who might be facing such challenge. First, do you have a good soundcard like that of focusrite scarlet 4th generation? If no, you need it or anything similar.
There's nothing you can do that will help solve the noise when they're singing. The work of a sound card is to properly filter the sound. I experienced this before and getting a good sound card fixed the issue

I'm not a sound guy so I don't know the "sound" language to use in describing what is going on. But the bottom line is that when the choristers are singing, there are too many sound coming in at same time and obs sees it as a noise. The noise gain can't work simply becsue it's coming from the same single audio devices. Hence when the minister is preaching, everything sounds good. The simple solution is getting a sound card like the one I mentioned earlier.

 

[AaronD]

I don't know if you've found a solution to it or if it has been answered. But I just want to drop it here for future reference and help to someone who might be facing such challenge. First, do you have a good soundcard like that of focusrite scarlet 4th generation? If no, you need it or anything similar.
There's nothing you can do that will help solve the noise when they're singing. The work of a sound card is to properly filter the sound. I experienced this before and getting a good sound card fixed the issue

I'm not a sound guy so I don't know the "sound" language to use in describing what is going on. But the bottom line is that when the choristers are singing, there are too many sound coming in at same time and obs sees it as a noise. The noise gain can't work simply becsue it's coming from the same single audio devices. Hence when the minister is preaching, everything sounds good. The simple solution is getting a sound card like the one I mentioned earlier.

Ehh... Not really. In the 1970's, you might have needed fancy expensive gear to not color the sound too much, but even '90's trash is practically transparent. There *is* a difference in the expected signal level, between consumer and pro gear (about 11dB), but as long as you know that and work with it, it's fine.

Self-taught Front-of-House Engineer for many years, and I love it! Then recently picked up Broadcast Engineering too, for my church's stream. I do all of the stream mixing and mastering (yes, mastering too: that's important!) in the digital console that replaced a Mackie SR24 as part of the new (for Covid) streaming rig.

So now we have a Behringer X32, with an already-mastered Aux out (2x RCA) feeding a Behringer UCA202 (2x RCA -> USB). OBS passes that through completely unchanged. The mastered level is set mathematically in the X32 to be *exactly* full scale on the '202. Sometimes OBS tells me it's clipping, but it can't, and it sounds great. I'm just using the top few values legitimately, which is what it keys on for that alarm.

Without the mastering step, you have a choice between way too quiet, or hard clipping and still too quiet. You can't just turn it up and then compress. You have to compress, then limit, and then turn it up, all with careful settings to avoid sounding "processed".

If it's too high at *any* point in the chain, you can't fix it later. You have to find *where* it's clipping, and turn it down *before* that point. Turning it down after, keeps the distortion despite lowering the volume. That's called "Gain Structure", and it's one of the fundamental key concepts in Audio Engineering. Or *any* signal processing, for that matter.